Door issues

Discussion in 'General Camping Discussion Forum' started by lkc, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:27 AM.

  1. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Hello all---got out on Saturday & worked for several hours, cleaning & taking care of some minor maintenance issues---I'm getting there!

    However I did find a problem with the door. This is the first time I have had the unit completely open & all set-up on this NTM popup. I had the bed ends all popped out & support poles underneath & the poles in the tent bed ends. The last thing I did was to drop the door into place. It slid into the frame on the bottom OK & the velcro attached with no problems & the canvas was not overly stretched on the door frame--it sealed up easily.

    However I could not get the T-latches at the top of the door frame fastened--the T-latches are actually attached to the inside of the roof. The door frame at the top stood out at least 1-2 inches too far from the T-latches to be able to latch. I was afraid to exert a lot of force to push on the top of the door frame--was afraid to do damage or bend the support posts.

    I checked all around the door frame to see if something was keeping the top of the door frame from going flat up against the inside of the roof, but could not see anything binding up and the door opens & closes perfectly and the bottom of the door is in the frame.

    ??? I'm confused. Any help would be appreciated.
  2. giadiep

    giadiep Active Member

    Sep 5, 2015
    Syracuse, NY
    Did you have the trailer level side to side and front to back?
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  3. gladecreekwy

    gladecreekwy Member

    Sep 25, 2016
    Mine has to be level or the door won't latch.
  4. Boatnman

    Boatnman Well-Known Member

    Jan 19, 2017
    western Colorado
    The door in our 2007 Fleetwood does not align very well either. The door has a little play in where it sits at the bottom which helps. I've also started putting the door in after the beds are pulled out and supported but before putting shepherd's hook in. With the canvas not being stretched, you should be able to move the lift arms side-to-side slightly to also get it to latch. You don't want to move the lift arms very much though.

    As others have said, it has to be level to fit.
  5. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    I know that it's level front to back--not sure about side to side--it looks level but I need to get a small stick-on bubble level for the front of the unit for the side-to-side---if it's not perfectly level it has to be very close.

    I'll have to check that out--also going to try putting the door in place before putting in the shepard's hooks & velcro. The rest of the door is perfectly centered and yes the door latch closes and opens with no issues.
  6. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

    are you sure that the roof is raised high enough?
  7. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    roof is as high as it will go
  8. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

    How about getting a few photos. Someone may see what is up.
  9. McFlyfi

    McFlyfi Active Member

    Aug 1, 2014
    You may need to adjust the cables at the wiffle tree to raise the roof higher.
    I had to do this with my Niagara- the symptom is the same, I had trouble getting the door "latched" to the roof/sideboard- the aluminum plate at the top of the door didn't slide fully under the lip of the roof. It wasn't immediately apparent that the roof needed to go higher, as the curtain valance covers it up. Inspect the spot where the top of the door slides under the roof. There should be a slight gap ( I set mine up with about 1/8") between the top of the door and the bottom of the section of roof it goes under. This allows the top of the door top slide flush against the side board, allowing the toggles to latch.
    Once I adjusted the wiffle tree, the door slides right in, and slight push to latch the toggles does it.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2018 at 5:59 PM
  10. Raycfe

    Raycfe Waterford Ct.

    Oct 3, 2007
    Waterford, Ct
    If the roof was higher would the door fit? if so adjust the cables or in some cases the pulleys underneath the camper can be move to a different hole for adjustment. Also set the door and canvas before setting up the bunks. Just a reminder the the stabilizers are just to take the wiggle out not jack up the camper.
  11. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Sorry--don't have any pics--it's all closed up now, waiting on the next weekend day I can work on it. I've been to two different places looking for a small bubble level to stick on the front to see the level side to side--I'm thinking I'm off level just enough to cause the issue & I'll have to correct that first. It's not hugely off level.

    The responses make sense now that I know a little more about this unit & have been tinkering around with it & how everything fits together.

    Roof appears to be all the way up and there's plenty of room for the door to be fully in place, but I'll triple check it again next weekend.

    This is such a great place to come to for suggestions & help with problems and knowledge about these popups. So glad to have y'all to help!
  12. Orchid

    Orchid Sharp Shootin' Grandma

    Either I am misunderstanding, or everyone else is. I am picturing the top of the door being level with the T latches, just jutting out toward the inside of the camper. Is this correct? If so, mine is always an inch or so out and I just push it in and latch. That has nothing at all to do with leveling, so no need to mess with your lift system.
  13. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Orchid-- the top of my door is more than an inch leaning to the inside-- I can not push it onto the latches without some force--& I'm not going to try to force it-- I don't think the trailer is level enough side to side-- I'm definitely going to try several other things before I even think about messing with the cable adjustments which I can't do myself anyway
  14. sawdusty

    sawdusty San Antonio

    Nov 9, 2014
    San Antonio
    IKC, get a carpenters level (so much more accurate) and place it in the middle of the floor. First check side to side and get it level, then front to back. I'm also thinking that you shouldn't be attaching anything to the door frame until it is in place entirely. If I'm understanding your original post you said you dropped it down and attached the canvas then tried to secure the frame at the top.
  15. lkc

    lkc Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    If I'm understanding you correctly, I should attach the velcro to the door last & latch the top of the door BEFORE the velcro?

    I will be getting a better level

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