Is transmission cooler needed for 2012 Odyssey pulling a Jayco Qwest 8?

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  1. ircommando

    ircommando New Member

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    We just got a Jayco Qwest 8 PUP, and I am getting my 2012 Honda Odyssey ready to perform the towing duties. Is an aftermarket fluid cooler needed for the transmission? Below are weight specs for the 2003 Qwest, that I assume is pretty close to 1999 specs (Is this a good assumption?)
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  2. xvz12

    xvz12 Active Member

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    IMO, a transmission cooler is always a good idea, YMMV
     
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  3. myride

    myride Active Member

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    Depending on where your planning on towing (mountains / flats et.) if your Honda
    doesn't have a tranny cooler you should install one. Over-kill as far as keeping that
    tranny fluid cool is better than the alternative. It's an inexpensive item that does help.
     
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  4. ircommando

    ircommando New Member

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    Thanks. Any advice on what cooler to go with? Is the install pretty easy? Or would you recommend having a real mechanic do it? I am pretty handy with house stuff, but cars is a new world to me.
     
  5. tzmartin

    tzmartin Active Member

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    Etrailer.com has many choices for you to look at. There are install videos as well. Get a class 2 cooler and you'll be fine.
     
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  6. f5moab

    f5moab Retired from the Federal Government

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    I always recommend and have used Stacked Plate coolers. However, these are the best for cooling and I was using them on Corvettes (with engine mods), off-road vehicles that I drove in the desert areas and up and down a heck of a lot of mountains in the western states. So a stacked plate might be an overkill, but in my humble opinion, an overkill is usually better than an underkill (if there is such as thing:D). I have always used B&M coolers too, but that is a personal preference.
    Amazon and Summit racing are good places for coolers....
    Here's a decent article on coolers...
    http://transmissionrepairguy.com/transmission-cooler/

    The actual installation of the cooler is not hard, the hard part can be getting to the location where you are going to install the cooler since it usually requires the removal of the front grille and that can be difficult or hard depending on vehicle.
     
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  7. Halford

    Halford Well-Known Member

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    I just saw that the Gross Weight is 1875. That is the max weight ignore the unload, dry weight information.

    Your TV should be able to tow it without any problems. Tranny Cooler is a good additional as I added to my previous TV. Does your TV come with tow package?
     
  8. ircommando

    ircommando New Member

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    No tow package. I would be putting it all in myself.
     
  9. Halford

    Halford Well-Known Member

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    Make sure to get bigger radiator as well.
     
  10. CamperChrissy

    CamperChrissy Active Member

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    Congrats on the camper!

    We tow a 2002 Jayco Qwest 10 with a 2012 Dodge Caravan. No tranny cooler. We tow around flat, flat Illinois and usually not more than 2-3 hours. Haven't had any issues so far. Of course, yes overkill would be better.

    One thing you might consider is beefing up your rear suspension. When we hooked up our camper, it really dropped the back end of the van low. My DH added these airbags inside the rear springs. You pump them up with a bicycle pump to make the suspension stiffer. Works great! They make fancier ones that have a pump you mount and run wiring to the engine and then just push a button to inflate. We just opted to keep it simple.
     
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  11. giadiep

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    The added transmission cooler will give you a better margin to protect your transmission. Just in case you haven't considered this, make sure the pup has brakes and you have a brake controller. This is a safety issue for your car and your family (as well as others on the road). This is of greater priority than the transmission cooler.
     
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  12. tfischer

    tfischer Well-Known Member

    What is the Odyssey's towing capacity? If it's 3500 pounds I wouldn't think you would need one.
     
  13. p

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    Your 2012 caravan has a tranny cooler...it is standard option.

    Also...how did you install the airbags...yourself or professionally. I here you have to remove break lines to stick the bags into the struts. On a odyssey...it is supposedly easier.
     
  14. MNTCamper

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    I've been towing with several different Odys for more than 10 years. It's cheap insurance to add the tranny cooler and relatively easy to do. The coolers themselves are only about $30 for a decent one (not OEM). I would recommend that you head over to the odyclub.com and look at the forums for detailed instructions. If you are modestly handy, you can install it yourself with no issues. I have installed them on all of the Ody's that I have towed with. my current '03 has about 175K miles on it and we towed 6300 miles out to the pacific NW last summer with a lot of grades and a ~2800 lb trailer and it worked great. I have never had to do anything to any of my Ody trannies other than change the fluid regularly (I use Maxlife ATF). The Ody is a capable tow vehicle that can give you many long years of life. I have run them to 344K and 254K before they were hit and totaled and they were running great at that point in their life.
     
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  15. CamperChrissy

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    I believe you're right, it does come with a small one. We had discussed upgrading it.

    Ah, the airbags... My DH and his dad spent a good 4 hours of grunting and swearing and bloodying their knuckles and installed them. They got the job done. I don't remember which parts they had to remove, but it was a lot of them. Getting the actual springs out and back in was the worst part. I think if they had to do it again, they would have a professional do it.
     
  16. p

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    Thanks. I heard it was nasty to do. I bought and returned them. I now try to minimize tongue weight.
     
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  17. tfischer

    tfischer Well-Known Member

    We put in an aux transmission cooler in our 2007 Grand Caravan since it didn't have a towing package. The worst part was you had to remove the entire front end of the car to get access. Once in there it was a matter of cutting one line, attaching some hoses, and zip-typing the cooler in place. And then putting it all back together lol. Wasn't too hard but time consuming.

    We sold that vehicle last year and our new Pacifica has the towing package so I don't plan on adding a cooler this time.
     
  18. tenttrailer

    tenttrailer Art & Joyce - Columbus, O

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    Honda had some strange cooling systems for their transmission. My wife Acura had water lines from the radiator coming to the transmission with a cooling plate on the transmission. I would look up how they install the aux cooler for their tow package??
     
  19. Rusty2192

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    Without a towing package added on, towing capacity on Odyssey’s is virtually nothing. I don’t remember off hand if it is 1,000 lbs or 0. Honda does their tow packages differently than most in that they are dealer installed options rather than from the factory. The benefit there is that you can add it to any of them at any time, no matter how it left the factory. You can even get the oem Honda parts if you want a cleaner look.

    So, you definitely need a tranny cooler to tow any pup with an Odyssey. For at least some years, Honda also says you need a power steering cooler, though that one still confuses me.
     

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