And I thought I knew all the Interstate tricks

PopUpSteve

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Dec 22, 2002
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Southeastern PA
I always love when you come across an Interstate that never was. The land was purchased, graded, overpasses build, but the Interstate was canceled. So now it looks like a riverbed with no water. Like what would have been I-176 South from Morgantown PA to Lancaster PA.


You can see the exit ramps off of route 30 were built and then the roadway just stops. In the satellite view you can see where the roadway was graded and then the project canceled.
 

kcsa75

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Sep 9, 2013
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Kansas City
A few years ago, the DOT decided to make US 71 south out of Kansas City, MO into an Interstate. Now this road connects directly with I-29 but from Kansas City south to Lafayette, LA it's I-49.

It was explained that that since from Kansas City south it's east of I-35 it had to be a higher number. o_O :rolleyes:
 

BikeNFish

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Apr 24, 2017
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Maplewood, MN
Yes but the snow and ice only clear for 1 week every year.
That's a complete fallacy. Sometimes we get up to 9 days.

EDIT: We brought home the new TT on Tuesday and are giving it a cold weather test tonight. Low will be 18F (-8C). So far, the 1500watt porcelain heater is keeping the temp in the TT in the mid 60's. with the outside temp at 28F and the wind out of the NW @ 22mph.

If you are wondering why I don't just use the furnace, I already know that it blasts the heat but is louder than the electric heater.
 
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kcsa75

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Sep 9, 2013
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Kansas City
That's a complete fallacy. Sometimes we get up to 9 days.

EDIT: We brought home the new TT on Tuesday and are giving it a cold weather test tonight. Low will be 18F (-8C). So far, the 1500watt porcelain heater is keeping the temp in the TT in the mid 60's. with the outside temp at 28F and the wind out of the NW @ 22mph.

If you are wondering why I don't just use the furnace, I already know that it blasts the heat but is louder than the electric heater.
Photos?
 

Zephyr

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Jun 18, 2013
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central Oregon
That's a complete fallacy. Sometimes we get up to 9 days.

EDIT: We brought home the new TT on Tuesday and are giving it a cold weather test tonight. Low will be 18F (-8C). So far, the 1500watt porcelain heater is keeping the temp in the TT in the mid 60's. with the outside temp at 28F and the wind out of the NW @ 22mph.

If you are wondering why I don't just use the furnace, I already know that it blasts the heat but is louder than the electric heater.
But you can't get anywhere in those 9 days, because that's road construction season.
 

kitphantom

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Dec 26, 2009
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Albuquerque, NM
A few years ago, on one of my trips to Ohio (from NM) to visit my late MIL, I discovered that the expressways in Kentucky were being rolled into the interstate system. What had been expressways of various names were becoming I-some number, even in places where there was a gap in interstate-type roads. what a huge mess. we had consulted 2 atlases, state maps from AAA, mapquest, google maps, etc. to plan the trip. (On solo trips like that, I write out each leg of the trip, habit from years of solo travel.) We don't have SatNav in the truck.
What I found out was that some of the roads weren't labeled as any of our resources had shown. Signage in construction zones was close to useless - either too late to help, too little information to be useful unless one was very familiar with the area, or non-existent. With no handy place to stop with thet railer, I drove probably 20 minutes out of the way before I found a place to stop, and in consultation with my husband by phone, since he could pull up multiple sources on his computer at one time, and looking at hard copy maps, we managed an alternate way to get me around the mess. We re-routed my return trip to avoid it. (I think the next year was my last trip east, when we cleared out my MIL's house, and I didn't take the trailer. I took yet another route so I could pick my husband up at an airport on the way.)
 

JiffyPopJunkie

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Jun 5, 2014
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LG Region NY
My Mom taught me this when I was like 6 or 7 and the family was driving out to Nebraska from Long Island. Since I was the youngest I got to sit in the cab of the 70 Chevy pickup a lot of the time while my 3 siblings rode in the back (with a cap of course) (and towing a Nimrod pop up!) My Dad drove, Mom was the co-pilot and I was the co-co-pilot and she taught me all about how to read maps. Really cool! Way to go Mom! I finally started trusting the gps about 10 years ago but still like to reference a real map on longer trips. Old habits.....
 

tfischer

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BikeNFish

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Apr 24, 2017
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Maplewood, MN
I've lived here 28 years and still have no idea what the difference between a County Road and a CSAH is.
I can tell you!

CSAH's (County State Aid Highways) are County Roads, but only a portion of the total miles of County Roads are eligible to be CSAH's. CSAH's are determined by process dictated by State statue.

By having a CSAH designation, it makes the roadway eligible for special State Aid funding to be used for construction & maintenance. The available funding is also determined by Statute and uses a fairly complicated formula (Equalization, Motor Vehicle Registration, Lane Miles and Needs) to determine how much each County will be allocated. The County then decides how, when and where to spend the allocation on their CSAH system.

See THIS book if you want to see how much apportionment your County received this year to use on their CSAH's. See pages 50 & 51.

I just may have a close affiliation with the office that calculates all of this. 😉
 
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