Dish Soap

tombiasi

Super Active Member
Sep 1, 2012
6,735
Northwestern New Jersey
Yes we to do paper plates then throw them on the fire. But not all the time, I balance it out evenly, if we are having juicy/soupy meals then its washable plastic plates and bowls. I really like the ease of paper plates but feel guilty about the waste, so we do a bit of both.
Please don't use the campfire for garbage.
 

tombiasi

Super Active Member
Sep 1, 2012
6,735
Northwestern New Jersey
If you are merely burning off paper waste, why not? I don't see the problem here. What am I missing?
Because there could be food particles. Most federal campgrounds have a rule about burning garbage in the campfire pit.
You say its just paper, and maybe it is for you,but I have seen some discussing fire pit debris. Bad in bear territory also.
 

dbhost

Super Active Member
Sep 19, 2018
1,279
League City, Texas USA.
Because there could be food particles. Most federal campgrounds have a rule about burning garbage in the campfire pit.
You say its just paper, and maybe it is for you,but I have seen some discussing fire pit debris. Bad in bear territory also.

I have seen what some folks throw in fire pits, and I personally would like to smack them upside the head for it. Beer cans, bottles, all sorts of plastics. THose are an absolute non starter. Haul that stuff out and dispose of or recycle properly.

Paper products however, never seen a problem with chucking htem in the fire pit, particularly paper plates.

HAVING SAID THAT. There are some paper plates that are partially plastic. I don't use them, do not advocate for using them, and would agree they need to stay out of the fire pit.

Food chunks is one thing. But particles? Like bread crumbs, or a smear of mustard. Shouldn't be a problem assuming you are nowhere near bear territory.

In bear territory all bets are off. I would think the best idea would be to use an old armored car as a conversion to an RV for bear country...
 

dbhost

Super Active Member
Sep 19, 2018
1,279
League City, Texas USA.
This discussion had me curious. Mostly due to the excessive use of plastics so many MFGs are fond of. Apparently recommendations have changed over the decades. I rather like Leave No Trace, and Tread Lightly, both organizations do a great deal for responsible land / outdoors use. https://lnt.org/burning-trash/ appears to have updated their recommendations and not even paper product waste should be burned in the fire pit. I am still not so sure of that one though. I use paper in a charcoal chimney all the time to get my BBQ started, or to get basic kindling started for a camp fire and it gets burned down to ash, and at least via the charcoal chimney, does not render flying embers...
 

tombiasi

Super Active Member
Sep 1, 2012
6,735
Northwestern New Jersey
This discussion had me curious. Mostly due to the excessive use of plastics so many MFGs are fond of. Apparently recommendations have changed over the decades. I rather like Leave No Trace, and Tread Lightly, both organizations do a great deal for responsible land / outdoors use. https://lnt.org/burning-trash/ appears to have updated their recommendations and not even paper product waste should be burned in the fire pit. I am still not so sure of that one though. I use paper in a charcoal chimney all the time to get my BBQ started, or to get basic kindling started for a camp fire and it gets burned down to ash, and at least via the charcoal chimney, does not render flying embers...
My request was to "please" don't throw garbage in the fire pit. One can always come up with what they think are mitigating circumstances. I have no authority, that's why I said "please".
 

Patrick w

Active Member
Aug 13, 2021
515
If you cook over your fire you will drop food grease and other bits in there. Just facts.
I actually dry rubbed and smokes fish next to a camp fire overnight. No signs of any animals wanting a piece of that.
Their usually smart enough to run from smoke and fire. Stick around long enough they join the smoke and fire!
 

tombiasi

Super Active Member
Sep 1, 2012
6,735
Northwestern New Jersey
If you cook over your fire you will drop food grease and other bits in there. Just facts.
I actually dry rubbed and smokes fish next to a camp fire overnight. No signs of any animals wanting a piece of that.
Their usually smart enough to run from smoke and fire. Stick around long enough they join the smoke and fire!
I don't spill anything in my fire.
 

Patrick w

Active Member
Aug 13, 2021
515
Its a little different having a piece of food fall in the fire and burn up than using the pit for garbage as was suggested.
I use duraflames sometimes it's really only one step above (or below) greasy plates. My opinion doesn't really count!
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
840
Minnesota
I found 4 knife blades one time in a fire pit, not small ones. Weird. I was using my plates from home for camping, now I use paper and trash them. Just feel better about it. I do use dawndish soap, I noticed a very seasoned camper using it too, so I figured, ok. I dump dish water on the dirt road or potty, depending on circumstances. Bears spotted nearby or thelike
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
840
Minnesota
I found 4 knife blades one time in a fire pit, not small ones. Weird. I was using my plates from home for camping, now I use paper and trash them. Just feel better about it. I do use dawndish soap, I noticed a very seasoned camper using it too, so I figured, ok. I dump dish water on the dirt road or potty, depending on circumstances. Bears spotted nearby or the like. I try and be very responsible, but recycling is tough where we go
There are very few places to bring it.
I found 4 knife blades one time in a fire pit, not small ones. Weird. I was using my plates from home for camping, now I use paper and trash them. Just feel better about it. I do use dawndish soap, I noticed a very seasoned camper using it too, so I figured, ok. I dump dish water on the dirt road or potty, depending on circumstances. Bears spotted nearby or thelike

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Katskamper

Super Active Member
Nov 21, 2015
876
Fort Worth, TX
i do a mix of paper & washable dishes. real silverware .
thankfully i have a dog who does prewash!

2 pans hot water, wash /rinse. a few drops of reg Dawn is enough. ( the $1 size bottle lasted for 5 years!)
the dawn foaming power spray does a great job for overnight pan soaking.

& side note
wasps

fill up a pitcher or pan with super sudsy soap water & pitch it on their nest.
they cant fly with suds on wings.
they try & fall & hit ground.
then you can stomp em dead.

park ranger did this for me after i got stung multiple times & inquired about wasp spray.
 

LucilleToo

New Member
Jun 24, 2019
5
I use Mrs meyers at home and in the camper, smells so good! Use as little as possible, take care not to dump on beneficial insects or milkweed, and never near a body of water.
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
840
Minnesota
I use Mrs meyers at home and in the camper, smells so good! Use as little as possible, take care not to dump on beneficial insects or milkweed, and never near a body of water.
I use it at home, I really like it, but use the old pump bottles for Dr. Bronners now. The co op nearby has it in bulk, so I fill up a big container and refill the smaller bottles. Bonners also has soap for laundry. I just do underclothes and socks in a small crank washer.
 

kitphantom

Super Active Member
Platinum Supporting Member
Dec 26, 2009
13,650
Albuquerque, NM
We've changed products since my earlier posts. I wear my nitrile gloves for all dish washing, a lot of food prep, and other tasks, to reduce the number of skin splits I have at any given time.
We have found that the Dawn platinum power wash spray works very well for lots of quick cleaning uses. I prefer the lighter scent of the clear version, although I wish they'd come out with an unscented one. it is easy to rinse off too.
For the dish pan, I used liquid Dawn. I just got so tired of "milder", "kinder", whatever products that just didn't clean well that we went back to using something that actually works, especially in reduced water conditions.
We have a gray tank on the TT, so most of the dishwater gets dumped there. If we're in a campground with facilities to dump gray water easily, we'll use that, especially on longer stays when we're eking out waste tank space.
We do use some paper plates and bowls, but we still have utensils and cookware to wash.
 




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