YouTuber "Technology Connections" did a bit on this... saying that in his mind, the plug-in hybrid... built with an electric range of maybe 100 miles which easily satisfies most people's commute and normal daily driving, but with an engine to get you further when necessary, was a much better overall strategy than the current one of putting expensive batteries in a vehicle trying to bump up the electric-only range to 3 or 400 miles, when (for most people) that's not needed often.
In general (very general) in Europe they have a significantly higher tow rating for the same car. A golf sportwagon tdi in Europe is rated to tow 1500kg (braked)
Teslas are known for their advertised range being a little overly optimistic at highway speeds. So rather than looking at that, use the consumption like your Subaru for comparison. The OP’s example of 90 mi consuming 51% of the 81 kWh battery pack would be 2.2 mi/kWh, or 74.6 MPGe. That’s a 38% drop from its unladen 122 MPGe, so not too far off your Subaru.Biggest issue is that it's almost impossible to charge unless you unhitch. Not only can you not go more than 2 hours or so, but it's going to take you 20 minutes to recharge and another 10-15 to park, unhitch, then rehitch. It also negates any possibility of boondocking or federal campgrounds that lack power.
What's interesting is if the OP is quoting around 180 mile range while towing (going down to 0% from 100), that represents a 83% drop in the max designed range of 330 miles, or 54% of the max range.
On the other hand, towing my lifted 1640LTD with my 4cyl Subaru Outback averages around 22MPG on the flats, vs the 27-29ish I would normally get, which is only a 31% drop or 76% of the range.
Seems like EV's do a lot worse when towing in comparison to gasoline vehicles as far as a percentage of potential energy used.
Hi. How far can you tow with your setup?Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD - towing capacity 3500lb, tongue weight 350lb
Camper: Rockwood 1940LTD - weight 1608 lb, hitch weight 195lb
First drive was about 90 miles away, fairly hilly here and there. Speeds about ~65 mph, give or take. Fair weather, sunny, a bit windy.
In the car: 2 adults, 2 dogs, some gear, one large bag of wood, coolers with food and beer, one large mosquito net.
In the trailer: water jug, 7 large bags of wood, bbq, full propane tank, camping chairs, some other stuff.
Return trip was the same distance, no load in the trailer. Speeds about ~55mph, give or take. Fair weather, sun and clouds, a bit windy.
Started with 90% battery, got there with about 40%. Used 50.2% battery on the way there, for about 90ish miles.
On the way back, started with 85%, got home with 40%.
We charged the car from 39% to 85% over the weekend since we had an electric site at the RV 30 amp plug. Car charged at 24 amps for about 11 hours to 85%.
Total cost of the trip: around $2.59CAD (around $1.96USD)- charged at home at 7.4c/kw on thew way up and free on the return.
We towed previously with a Ram 1500 V8 full crewcab 4x4 and a Toyota 4Runner. On daily driving all around, road trips, city, highway, towing, the Model Y is about 10 times cheaper than the 4Runner.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
i would comfortably do 180-190 miles, and keeping it lighter and within the speed limit, I could push 200 miles. The numbers are based on 90% battery, with 100% I can probably do easy 225 miles. But to keep it real world numbers, 10%-15% to 80ish% is about 20-25 min. Times get longer to push into 90% at proably 35ish min and longer to 100%. Fastest and best for the battery life is 10%-15% to 80%. As I said, easy 180 miles on a single charge.Hi. How far can you tow with your setup?
That's good to know. You got me thinking , I'm curious if the new condos coming in near my office have included EVs in their plans. The units there are said to be going for as high as $500k+. Way to rich for my pay grade but perhaps that cost includes extras like EV charging.Here they started changing the building codes a few years back. Now, all the new developments include conduits for EVs
That is the challenge. What is the benefit? What is the cost?A station would need to have 15000kw (is that 15mw?) Hourly producton to keep up. on a busy interstate, that could mean over 300mw daily which is right on the cusp of Some of the largest solar farms in America.
All this for 1 gas station replacement!!!