I just came across this "You Won't Believe Californians New Rule for RV's & Large Trucks"

[firepit]

California????...Never heard of it???

 

[theseus]

Josh the RV Nerd talked about this in this last monthly update. In order for California to do this, infrastructure would have to totally change.

 

[1380ken]

They want to make sure that all the expensive diesel particulate filters are maintained and not bypassed. I worked on developing DPF filters, when regenerating the filters and burning off the soot the filters become white hot. I use to do it on a flow bench. Never thought they would ever actually get on trucks.

 

[tfischer]

If I was in a Class C and was just over the 14,000 LBS, I'd be doing whatever I could to get it under weight. Put some aluminum rims on it, change those Lazy-Boy chairs out for something cheaper and lighter, get rid of a propane tank, whatever it takes, get it under weight.

How are they enforcing this? Are they making you weigh when they enter the state?

 

[LlamaLlama]

No one should be surprised by anything our "elected representatives" push through before the election in November. There are so many crazy laws here and selectively enforced.

When I went to transfer the title on my new pup the fee was based on the sale price- I asked the person helping me if a lot of people have recently bought $1.00 trailers and she just smiled. Clearly she was instructed not to tell me how much the transfer fee would be until AFTER I filled out the paperwork. Such a joke!

 

[Sjm9911]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

"Unlike passenger car smog checks, heavy-duty vehicle owners will be able to complete the required test and deliver emissions systems inspection information remotely without having to travel to designated testing locations. The test can be conducted anywhere using the truck’s OBD system or stand-alone scan tool provided it’s performed by a CARB-credentialed tester using a CARB-certified readout device. It is projected that 75 to 80% of all heavy-duty trucks will have OBD equipment that can utilize telematics technology – that is, sending the data automatically – when the program begins."

CARB unveils ‘Smog Check’ for trucks at enforcement event at Port of Los Angeles | California Air Resources Board

SACRAMENTO – The California Air Resources Board (CARB) recently previewed the Heavy-Duty Inspection and Maintenance Program (HD I/M), which is due to begin phasing in on Jan. 1, 2023, at an enforcement truck event held at the Port of Los Angeles. CARB used the event, where more than 1200 trucks...

ww2.arb.ca.gov

Note that the link above is the same document used in the Youseless tube video in post 1.

Whats that going to cost the drivers?

 

[teh603]

Nah, pickups are well under 14,000 lbs GVWR. F-450 is right at 14k, so still not covered. It’s aimed primarily at commercial trucks like delivery trucks, semis, dump trucks, etc. Think of all of those that you see blowing smoke. Which is why it’s even more perplexing to include personal motorhomes.

Well, shows how recently I've looked at the towing stats on full- size pickups. They're so far out of my price range they might as well not be for sale at all.

As for RVs, I could see delivery companies making their drivers sleep in the trucks one night a week to declare them motorhomes. Anything to make the workers' lives worse, and improve their own bottom line at the same time. So not having an exemption kinda makes sense.

 

[Sjm9911]

They want to make sure that all the expensive diesel particulate filters are maintained and not bypassed. I worked on developing DPF filters, when regenerating the filters and burning off the soot the filters become white hot. I use to do it on a flow bench. Never thought they would ever actually get on trucks.

We have these on the fire trucks now, came from calafornia legislation and is adopted by nj. Saps the power out of the trucks. Can barely get to 15 mph up a steep hill, ( maybe 20 mph if you catch the lights) and we have many. When we ordered these years ago, it was oversized engine and transmissions for the hills . We had the manafatures out when we recived them, they tested everything, and it was the emitions restrictions cutting the engiens hp when it went above a certian level. This level was reached almost immediately out the door of the firehouse.

 

[mickeytopher]

If I was in a Class C and was just over the 14,000 LBS, I'd be doing whatever I could to get it under weight. Put some aluminum rims on it, change those Lazy-Boy chairs out for something cheaper and lighter, get rid of a propane tank, whatever it takes, get it under weight.

take everything out that you can and load it into a trailer

 

[1380ken]

We have these on the fire trucks now, came from calafornia legislation and is adopted by nj. Saps the power out of the trucks. Can barely get to 15 mph up a steep hill, ( maybe 20 mph if you catch the lights) and we have many. When we ordered these years ago, it was oversized engine and transmissions for the hills . We had the manafatures out when we recived them, they tested everything, and it was the emitions restrictions cutting the engiens hp when it went above a certian level. This level was reached almost immediately out the door of the firehouse.

I worked on some early systems for fire trucks. They only used the filter when the truck went in and out of the fire station and it was bypassed on the road.

 

[Sjm9911]

Not anymore. They record everything also. No way to bypass it without it being recorded. So, it tracks everything. Including if you get in an accident, speed, emitions, axis. Seat bets etc. They have black boxes like air planes now.

 

[tfischer]

take everything out that you can and load it into a trailer

Pretty sure it goes by combined GVWR

 

[jharahush]

I'm sure it's just an attempt to make life harder for ICE vehicle owners in order to push along the transition to EVs, since that is a goal for California. 4x/year emissions testing is silly and will likely do nothing to impact air quality, as most vehicles are within the allowed emissions guidelines unless there is something wrong with them.

Glad I left California 15 years ago.

 

[tfischer]

I'm sure it's just an attempt to make life harder for ICE vehicle owners in order to push along the transition to EVs, since that is a goal for California. 4x/year emissions testing is silly and will likely do nothing to impact air quality, as most vehicles are within the allowed emissions guidelines unless there is something wrong with them.

Glad I left California 15 years ago.

I try to keep an open mind but it's hard to support 4 times a year, and enforcing it for outside vehicles that visit the state. If they are doing remote reporting like mentioned elsewhere, it also seems like this is very open to be hacked/tampered with and will just keep honest people honest, and others will just buy some sort of cheat device.

 

[Econ]

I've seen Yosemite once so dont plan a return trip. Not caring enough to read the details all I can say from an economics point of veiw this is a good way to detour business to elsewhere. different ports, etc

@Mark CASTELLANI like it:Why go Outdoors just to be Indoors"

Is everybody there crazy/stupid or is just the legal voters?

Saw article about we cant have an EV craze because of the limited about of precious resources.

 

[tombiasi]

California????...Never heard of it???

This doesn't apply to me, I stay in the United States.