Mark CASTELLANI
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amen to that, Sister!
This is disturbing but should come as no surprise
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Mark CASTELLANI
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LOL LOL LOLDo you just toss 'em in w/ the leftovers & turn 'em w/ a pitchfork every few days... we don't have cats, but the neighbors down the ridge do
Mark CASTELLANI
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YIKES!!!
Reuse those paper bags! Remember making book covers for your school book? Can't do that with plastic bags, easily.
Snow
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- Jul 19, 2007
- 12,322
I remember when all the tree huggers were toting the benefits of longer lasting plastic grocery bags back in the 70s. The plastic bags would save thousands of trees per year.
It's easier to plant a new tree then to kill a dinosaur, dig a 1,000 foot hole, bury the dinosaur, wait a million years, drill a hole, pump out the oil, and make a new plastic bag from the oil. Think of all the energy that would take and the pollution it would produce. Where a new tree would help remove carbon from the air, provide homes for woodland creatures, and shade. But you use this argument, and they say you're crazy.
In Colorado now EVERY store charges $.10 for every plastic bag! And I mean every store! I got used to taking my own bags into the grocery store but not EVERY store. Now I bought (from Amazon) many of those bags you can roll up, and they really do hold a lot, and weight. I can keep several in my purse, or pockets.
Kroger (King Soopers here) stopped the plastic bag recycle. They'd said the plastic bags really were repurposed into lumber, etc. Walmart takes bags, but after your video . . . We chose to not have trash pick-up (we are not in the city). We go to a local trash place (a dump). Tho they separate recycle vs trash, the recycle pile is a mess. They said recycle stuff is getting too expensive. We're able to throw it all together - cardboard, glass, cans, and the proper numbered plastics. Since I compost most things that would smell, we accumulate mostly recycle bags before going to the dump. I bought silicone bags and lids to limit my ziplock bag and plastic wrap usage. Now I've started canning a lot, so way less store bought canned goods.
We're finding the home canned goods - mainly meals - are so handy to take camping. I've saved a quality heavy made, waxed box, for taking the canned goods camping. Last year was our first time taking them camping and we really liked it.
Kroger (King Soopers here) stopped the plastic bag recycle. They'd said the plastic bags really were repurposed into lumber, etc. Walmart takes bags, but after your video . . . We chose to not have trash pick-up (we are not in the city). We go to a local trash place (a dump). Tho they separate recycle vs trash, the recycle pile is a mess. They said recycle stuff is getting too expensive. We're able to throw it all together - cardboard, glass, cans, and the proper numbered plastics. Since I compost most things that would smell, we accumulate mostly recycle bags before going to the dump. I bought silicone bags and lids to limit my ziplock bag and plastic wrap usage. Now I've started canning a lot, so way less store bought canned goods.
We're finding the home canned goods - mainly meals - are so handy to take camping. I've saved a quality heavy made, waxed box, for taking the canned goods camping. Last year was our first time taking them camping and we really liked it.
Mark CASTELLANI
Active Member
check out this site
Litterless.com
a list, by State, of places that sell in bulk ... bring your OWN container/packaging
Happy Trails!
PS: DW told me to mention that she uses toilet roll tubes (cut down to size) for starting seedlings... again DWs other title is "She, who must be obeyed"
Litterless.com
a list, by State, of places that sell in bulk ... bring your OWN container/packaging
Happy Trails!
PS: DW told me to mention that she uses toilet roll tubes (cut down to size) for starting seedlings... again DWs other title is "She, who must be obeyed"
I think it was the plastic industry saying that. The tree huggers wanted us to macrame our own bags to use.
rlongfield
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- Mar 20, 2017
- 58
Don't slip into false equivalencies, unlike plastic bags there is big money in recycling batteries and solar panels. Batteries for their precious metals and solar panels to reduce input costs on new panels (think the auto industry).
For batteries there is a reason the auto industry is looking at leasing batteries, there is just too much value sitting in each battery pack. For solar panels, manufacturers can reduce new material input to just 2%.
Plastic might just be the biggest scam ever. Industries did a brilliant marketing job convincing us that plastic was the future, it was easily recyclable, and inexpensive. They shifted the costs from them to us when we welcomed the shift from glass/paper to plastic.
I have seen no of that. The batters get incinerated because they are all made differently to get to the metal. Until they come up with a standardized ev battery this is the norm. And solar panels cost to much to remove and ship the the limited number of facilities. So, it cost more to recycle them then to dump them. Its the truth.
California went big on rooftop solar. Now that's a problem for landfills
California, a national leader in the solar market, has no plan for safely recycling more than 1 million photovoltaic panels that will soon need to be discarded.
www.latimes.com
There is an existing market for used solar panels. It might be small right now but it will grow a lot in the future. Similar to used cars, used solar panels might not be optimal but can still be very useful. They come at a price point that may allow many of us in the middle middle class to get started with solar. With more & more used panels becoming available, the cost of starting with used panels will come down even more. The market for used batteries also exists but is still small compared to new. It should grow over time & will hopefully complement the used panels. The price for all the rest of setting up a solar system is likely to stay high, from a cash poor perspective.
NLB
Active Member
You can reread the post I quoted. If you would like to moderate, ask Steve to change your title.
I normally don’t respond to posts such as yours, but I’ve noticed several people have left the community over posts that had a tone of criticism.
Picture if you will, finding solitude on a mountain, de-stressing from a long week, when you find yourself surrounded by wailing shrieks of agony emitting from the throats of earthies...do you yell "Hey, trees suck", & make a last stand, or leave a paper trail as you attempt to bust thru their ranks & try to make it back to your truck...you have 1 round in the chamber ![[8D]](/smileys/smile_cool.gif "Cool [8D]")
